@robertwiblin - I interviewed Holden Karnofsky of Anthropic (and past CEO

I interviewed Holden Karnofsky of Anthropic (and past CEO of Open Philanthropy) for 4.5 hours on almost all his AGI takes: • The AI 'race' isn't a coordination failure [00:18:01] • Why he's currently focused on pursuing easy wins and partial victories [02:43:43] • "It'll be the second advanced species ever" [02:31:44] • Dozens of 'concrete shovel-ready projects' he's excited about [01:17:58] • People don't appreciate all the engaging, impactful, high-feedback work available tackling AGI risks [01:19:00] • Having a more responsible AI company really does matter [02:43:43] • You shouldn't count on trusting anyone in AI [00:44:30] • To take over an AGI might just wait it out [00:07:39] • Farm animal welfare campaigns that targeted companies contain some useful lessons here [02:34:18] • Human-AI relationships really are troubling [03:53:58] • It's totally plausible we incompetently fumble our way into a great future [03:04:16)] • AI R&D is *the* thing to worry about [01:57:31] • And many others. Holden has opinions on almost everything and isn't afraid to speak his mind. Enjoy! (On the 80,000 Hours Podcast anywhere you get podcasts. Links below.)